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the oldest and strongest human emotion

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane

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my name is lon stripler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations and remarkable

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realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory

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but for new knowledge of the

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supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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together

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained live on beyond

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explanation

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i'm your host lon strickler coming to

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you with a canon within a canon

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shadow of the howard grounds of

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gettysburg pennsylvania thanks for

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joining me

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monsters this is what we like to talk

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about and

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you know

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it's when we talk about monsters it's

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it's best to have the person who's kind

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of put the name monster out there in the

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ether i would suppose tonight

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i welcome television film producer and

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screenwriter doug hycheck to arcane

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radio and that doug

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has been a successful television

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documentary series producer and show

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creator

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committed to bringing innovative ideas

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and real-life content to the screen

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he is a credentialed technologist camera

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systems inventor wildlife researcher

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documenting never seen

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before

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behaviors in many wildlife settings

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doug is the president and founder of

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white wolf entertainment incorporated a

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television production company

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specializing

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and non-fiction programming

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with over 270 tv features under his belt

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including his hit series monster quest

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for the history channel

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uh doug has been producing television

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shows for national network since

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1985

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is currently developing a full-length

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movie indoor series entitled legend

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meets science 2

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or legend beach science series the

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release date is planned for this fall

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in 2015 doug joined forces with les

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acting as his technical

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director and consultant for stroud's tv

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series survivor man bigfoot

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he currently co-hosts and produces

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untold radio am on several live and

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live shows air and are recorded each

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he also he has also spent a considerable

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time in tv show development with veteran

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uh one of doug's innovations is the

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trojan squid cam

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used to film the world's first free

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swimming giant squid his monster quest

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predators

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of the deep special

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its experts confirmed that was the first

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living giant squid species estimated to

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be 54 foot long a perfect definition of

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a monster so doug thanks for joining me

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this evening

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hello lawn

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really happy to be here as i was telling

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you you're one of the people i i really

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admired you for many years so i'm

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honored to be here well i appreciate

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uh monsters are our game i suppose we

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want to put it that way we're definitely

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somebody i listened to for

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well i think i thank you for the

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flattery and uh you know you and i have

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talked off and on over the years and

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chatted back and forth and um

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maybe i rubbed off on a few things a few

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ideas i hope that's the case anyway

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how did you get you know everybody will

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ask you this and want to know how did

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monster quit start because actually that

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for uh the these cryptid television

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that nobody knows about that i did that

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network called the outdoor life network

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bigfoot and it was called mysterious

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um there was just a number of people but

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research and filming for a wildlife tv

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know sitting on the side so if something

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fish and i'm seeing this giant thing i

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swimming in the water trying to come

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fish so to make a long story short i got

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home couldn't get out of my head

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called a fisheries biologist who i had

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a lot of the time life books on

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these giant fish up in the arctic

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selwyn lake i was with a number of other

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and we came upon these giant footprints

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um that came out of the water up into

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the sand

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but where i knew it was a monster

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because there was a footprint

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in front of the tree trunk and then one

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behind the tree trunk

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of a seven foot tall stunted spruce tree

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and so it whatever it was stepped over

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the tree that was clear

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i got back home couldn't get that out of

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my head ended up getting a hold of matt

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and we ended up um hitting it off and

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talking and he educated me

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and then we started pitching legend

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science sasquatch legend mean science

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which we finally sold it to discovery

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and that was the first scientific

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bigfoot documentary ever done

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and then from that i did mysterious

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encounters the first bigfoot tv series

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that nobody ever heard of

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and then from that um i was pitching

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giganto the real king kong

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and i couldn't sell it because i was

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just calling it giganto giganto and

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nobody wanted to buy it and then finally

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two days later it was sold um to history

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and it aired and they literally called

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me up on and said can you do more of

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monster quest was born that's what

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so who came up with a name you did

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when you do a name uh role you just

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start writing and you just get brain

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diary and you just start writing any

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damn name and finally i think we

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combined two words monster and quest

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monster quest because it's what it was

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you know i was raised up on um

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in search of and you know that that was

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kind of like the the first show for me

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raised up in the air at the time when

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you know the betty and barney hill

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abduction was what you know starting to

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hit the mainstream yep uh that that was

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really what fascinated fascinated me in

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you know paranormal and ufos and the

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the patterson gimlin film and such

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large law there between those shows and

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monster quest you know when monster

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quest came out

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i i had just started writing the blog

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and uh you know i of course i had been

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collecting this you know the stories for

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years and you know i had my own

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encounters as well

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i i saw that and at the oh my god you

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know this is going to blow up i loved it

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it was something very new very

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raw but it just

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you know they had there's great graphics

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in it and the great stories and um

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people who knew what they were knew what

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actually talking about bigfoot uh in

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real life and uh

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thing out it's it it was continuing to

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set new records on the history channel

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don't know really what went wrong

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people always say well you must ran out

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of things to cover it's like no

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no way that would ever happen

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but it ran its course and i kind of you

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if you can imagine i mean that's it's

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like you get up in the morning you work

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all day you eat supper

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you will go to work after supper you

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maybe take another little break and then

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you work to like four in the morning

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then you get up and you go to you go to

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bed at four in the morning get up at

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eight or all over and you do that for

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four years and then just after a while

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you get burned out not once did i even

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take one vacation during that

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four years

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well you know you that show kind of put

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the the well-known cryptozoologists and

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such out there

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uh put their names out there and that to

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you know where they are at today and um

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innovative actually innovative

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and you ought to be absolutely proud of

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that i'm quite sure you are it's an

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amazing achievement well i was teasing

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jeff meldrum we were at a conference and

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i did it publicly i was you know

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speaking

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and i was explaining my pee break that i

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took

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completely changed my life

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and then i started thinking about it

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real time and i'm thinking

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and i'm seeing jeff sitting over there

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and i'm like

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think about how it changed your life

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jeff because i put you on tv for the

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first time

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and now you've got this big career

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literally he's just this tv constantly

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and you know he's pretty well known and

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um

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but i was

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lucky enough to find people like him and

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find all the people that did support me

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and a lot of them have gone on you know

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their careers are

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cooking on tv right now so kind of neat

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yeah i'm very proud of that

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as you should be and um you know i i

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didn't know

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that your your involvement with les

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stroud and survivorman bigfoot

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uh tell us a bit about that how'd that

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develop

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well i saw less on um i think it was

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anthony and opie and anthony podcast

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and and les was being pressured by them

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just you know they had asked him

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anything weird ever happened to you and

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he just you know les is really honest

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and he just

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zinged out

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his show

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or his his experience had happened while

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he was producing his regular survivorman

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show

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and um i heard that and i thought oh

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crap i'm calling less

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i wrote him an email right away i mean

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that same day i saw the

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thing and i said man you know i

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explained to him

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one somebody with your credibility

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um and your you know your outdoor skills

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you're gonna be able to make a huge dent

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in this mystery if nothing else you're

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gonna be able to raise the bar

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and so we ended up um you know you said

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well i'm gonna be out in

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philadelphia and you know whatever two

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three weeks why don't you fly out meet

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well tell us a bit about doug i mean how

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did you start in this how did you become

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involved with all this um

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entertainment bug that you have and then

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your your great career um tell us a bit

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about it

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oh my god my career was weird okay

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it started out probably at a very young

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age um

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my grandfather was actually in the

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polymer mixing business

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and so i was just aware of plastics and

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rubber

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and so one day um

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i i i was noticing the weather stripping

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on cars was really bad

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and i went out and just set up to start

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inventing

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a weather strip a new type of weather

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strip that was high quality because back

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in the you know back in the 60s um it

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was bad i mean it was just nasty

388
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so i started mixing chemicals and

389
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whatnot because here was my goal at a

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young age

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if i could invent this

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then i could do what i wanted to do

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which was television and wildlife

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research

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so that was what motivated wasn't the

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money it was the fact i knew if i could

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invent something really cool

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um

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then i could do what i wanted to do and

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so that's what i did

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had success took me eight long years but

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had success finally and literally when

403
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everything was rolling good i had the

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money coming in i um i contacted a guy

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named ron shara

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and i pitched him doing a tv show and he

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said yeah let's do it

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a week later a network cbs said yeah

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we'll take it

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next thing you know here's this kid who

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really had no experience in tv at all

412
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had a tv show scared out of my mind no

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training no anything

414
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but i just worked harder probably than

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other people because i had no training

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you know and i had to hire people and

417
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whatnot but i learned the business quick

418
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and started eventually shooting editing

419
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but i kept doing wildlife research i was

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curious about

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what goes on at the bottom of a giant

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lake like like superior when no one's

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around

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so i would go to work and i would just

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start calling scientists up cold

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and saying here this is my project what

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i have in mind are you willing to help

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and they'd say yeah and so i just kept

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calling people

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next thing you know

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you know a year later i'd find myself on

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a big research ship with some crazy

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contraption i built in my garage with 50

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divers helicopters

435
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it's just about kind of really trying to

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spread the enthusiasm for a curiosity

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and so

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i just kept doing those kinds of things

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in wildlife

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and and then i would get network

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sometimes excited about

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funding or giving me a documentary like

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i did the man that walks with bears

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and in that dock we used uh infrared for

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the first time ever on television had

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never been used

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i invented a camera system that could go

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in a bear's den for the whole winter and

449
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remember this is back almost

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pre-internet days

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um

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it was when most people did not have a

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computer yet

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some did but not many

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um and certainly if you had a computer

456
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they probably didn't have internet

457
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it was a little bit ahead of my time um

458
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so i did that doc we had mark hamill to

459
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narrate it

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um

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from star wars

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i just that kind of launched in my

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national career and i just kept doing

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stuff

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and um i was trying to unlock secrets

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um other dimensional things like beavers

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what goes on in a beaver lodge um no one

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had ever put a camera in a wild beaver

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lodge

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so it took two years finally got a

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camera in a beaver lodge and figured out

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how to do it

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then lo and behold there they are with

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muskrats that are grooming them

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and working with them and they're doing

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all the flooring and the bedding and the

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the beavers are doing the walls and the

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ceiling as the water levels rise

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but it was just

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those kinds of things that just kept

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motivating me so i in some ways i

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cheated i used tv as my

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my funder to be able to do wildlife

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research

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i mean that's that's how i did it i

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cheated

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well i i i i can tell you i i've been

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kind of thinking the same route for

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phantoms and monsters

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to kind of putting it out on the road at

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some point well you already have the

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greatest name ever phantoms and monsters

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is like amazing because i remember

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that's how i found you first i'm like i

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don't care what website this takes me to

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i'm i'm on it

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because the name was so intriguing um

498
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but yeah i mean you should be doing that

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i would love to talk to you about

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phantom and monsters

501
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oh well

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we should talk then i'm quite i'm quite

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sure we will talk

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i i do have a question from james west

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um are there any projects in the works

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that you can talk about

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sure i've got a number of things um

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so i i kind of went into retirement for

509
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a while then i joined

510
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facebook and i ended up um getting um

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uh three tv agents

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that are helping me with

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getting some projects sold

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and those i can't talk about because

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they're actually you know talking to

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networks

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and so on but i can say one's on on

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crime but are very different

519
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um

520
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it's got a very different twist to it

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but it's solving and helping families um

522
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you know in a much higher tech way in a

523
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much quicker way than what's being done

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now

525
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meat science too in the works we're

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actually shooting for that right now

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um and that's going to be like a two

528
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hour film

529
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where it picks up where legend meets

530
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science one left off which is became

531
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again jeff meldrum wrote a 300 page book

532
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um which i'm very proud of because it's

533
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the first um scientific book ever on the

534
00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:50,559
mystery

535
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,080
and um but we've got 20 new pieces of

536
00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:56,320
evidence on categories so i want you to

537
00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:57,600
think about this

538
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:00,320
20 new categories of evidence

539
00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:02,720
that has never seen the light of day

540
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i'm not talking about pieces of evidence

541
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i'm talking about whole categories

542
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that's bigger than individual pieces

543
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because once this information gets out

544
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:16,799
then it'll allow a lot of people to be

545
00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:18,720
gathered more evidence that's currently

546
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:20,240
being gathered right now which is very

547
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little

548
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you know everybody's looking for the

549
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film the camera trap

550
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,320
yeah maybe a hair

551
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um but people don't really even know

552
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:30,080
what to do with the hair because it's

553
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:31,760
it's a problem so we're working on

554
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solving

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um and getting out there 20 new

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categories and that's that's what i'm

557
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:41,039
really really excited about

558
00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:43,600
uh we got an extra question here from

559
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blue cross roads um

560
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:48,400
what's the ratio of actual research

561
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:52,640
versus uh creative artistic drama

562
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for what

563
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for monster quests

564
00:21:01,750 --> 00:20:58,880
let's say monster quest or any any any

565
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of the shows that you do

566
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i always think of it all of it is

567
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research you know the reality shows and

568
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:07,919
yeah some guy i mean sometimes you have

569
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to redo something

570
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,679
i mean that's just goes without saying

571
00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:13,840
if somebody says something and your

572
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:16,240
battery was dead and you got to reload a

573
00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:17,600
new battery going to say can you repeat

574
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:19,840
that line but that's about it for the

575
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:23,520
drama or oh geez you know i uh i had a

576
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:26,159
smudge in my lens can you re-walk that

577
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:28,000
walk that again that's about as much

578
00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:30,799
drama is we ever pumped into monster

579
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:32,720
quest yeah

580
00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:34,799
yeah you know i can understand that you

581
00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:38,799
know i the one thing about paranormal tv

582
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:40,880
that has really bugged me from well

583
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:42,880
especially the last couple years

584
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:45,440
is the use of so much

585
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,600
so-called technology

586
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:49,600
spirit boxes and that type of thing you

587
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:51,760
know it kind of goes away from reality

588
00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:52,640
to me

589
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:55,200
uh it's more entertainment and i

590
00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:56,960
that's one thing i really liked about

591
00:22:02,149 --> 00:22:00,320
monster quest was that it it kind of

592
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,159
backed away from it was entertainment

593
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:04,480
there of course it has to be a bit

594
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,799
but it really got to the nuts and bolts

595
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:08,480
of the phenomena and that's what i

596
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:10,080
really enjoyed

597
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,760
well you know i think about things that

598
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:14,159
we did um you know there's other firsts

599
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:16,960
that we did we filmed the first

600
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,840
it's a 12-foot shark in fresh water

601
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:21,840
that had swam way up to st lawrence

602
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,960
seaway

603
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:24,799
literally we filmed it right in front of

604
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:27,200
a guy's walleye dock

605
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,480
you know where they get you know just a

606
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,159
freshwater river

607
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:32,320
and um way almost in the center of the

608
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:35,039
of of north america here's this 12-foot

609
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,320
shark

610
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:40,549
so we did that we got great footage of

611
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:42,960
that um we had a number of things that

612
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,440
we're very proud of put a lot of cameras

613
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,200
on animals

614
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,280
um sometimes they didn't always work

615
00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:51,440
because once again it's just technology

616
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:53,840
failure but we just told it as it was

617
00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:55,760
you know something failed that

618
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,280
um you know it failed

619
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:59,440
[Laughter]

620
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:01,120
it failed but we did have a lot of

621
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:03,520
science we did a lot of lab tests

622
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:05,440
i think for monster quests i spent more

623
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:07,760
money on lab tests than

624
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,520
all the shows combined

625
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:11,520
to date

626
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:12,960
yeah that's one thing you got to look at

627
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:15,200
how much actual money is it

628
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:17,520
pumped into a show like that

629
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:21,120
uh yeah i i can't even imagine

630
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,679
how much it is but it's got to be it's

631
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:25,520
got to take up a majority of the budget

632
00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:27,440
i would believe it did many cases and

633
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:29,440
then you have your travel

634
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:31,360
you know um

635
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,080
it just got really expensive um it's

636
00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:36,799
like a bunch of piranhas eating oil

637
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:38,240
you know when you're doing a tv show

638
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:39,600
like that because it does have to be

639
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:42,400
high quality right and then you have to

640
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,320
have you know custom music written

641
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:46,480
because it's for the history channel

642
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,880
you know for the soundtrack and

643
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,039
the narrators are usually really good

644
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,520
and they're high paid but they're good

645
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:55,279
i mean i thought our narrator just was

646
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:00,710
um they they're the one there was one

647
00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:03,200
phenomena one cryptid that really

648
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:06,080
fascinated me and kind of got me

649
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:08,640
interested in the actual phenomena

650
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:11,279
itself was the john squid and you guys

651
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:13,120
covered that on monster quest and of

652
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,400
course

653
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:16,720
your your innovation uh

654
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:19,760
led to the actual um

655
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:20,960
uh

656
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:25,840
a live specimen can you tell us about

657
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:27,120
that

658
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:28,320
well you remember i told you about the

659
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:31,360
trout blonde right okay so i just

660
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:32,960
basically when we went up there when i

661
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:34,400
went up there with this guy this

662
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:35,760
biologist

663
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:37,840
we basically were making these big fish

664
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:40,320
lures with cameras embedded in them

665
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:42,000
because we wanted to not just catch one

666
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,679
we wanted to film it

667
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:45,440
because we figured more than likely it's

668
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:46,960
going to be wary

669
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:48,559
so we're just hoping to get it to come

670
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:51,600
up in the strike range to film it so i

671
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,960
did the exact same thing for the squid

672
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:56,480
you know built what we called the

673
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:57,840
pseudomorph

674
00:25:02,070 --> 00:24:59,679
to catch a squid big enough to we can

675
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:02,080
put a camera on a real squid

676
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:04,159
and then send him down

677
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:05,600
um

678
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:07,360
and that's just what we did we had a

679
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:08,640
camera

680
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,559
literally with a clip and a cotter pin

681
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,240
that went on a squid

682
00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:14,400
that was about five foot long

683
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,240
sent him down

684
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:18,080
because what's going to be

685
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,520
um it's a

686
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:21,279
a big giant squid isn't going to be wary

687
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:23,440
of a squid right right

688
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:26,559
and that was the goal and of course it

689
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:29,600
was because as this camera squid went

690
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,480
down

691
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:32,400
we were really surprised other squid

692
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,720
were coming up and just feeling the

693
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,400
camera

694
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,159
i mean they were just touching it as it

695
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,480
was just kept going down down down

696
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,320
squid kept running in touching our

697
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,240
camera and then taking off

698
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:45,840
um

699
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,279
just like they were playing tag with the

700
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:49,120
camera and then went down and finally

701
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:51,039
here's this mammoth

702
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,640
thing with you know tentacles that were

703
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:54,559
a foot and a half wide

704
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,559
you know in an eyeball that probably was

705
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,559
about a foot and a half big

706
00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:00,880
and it just came up with tentacles wide

707
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:03,120
open to our you know our our trojan

708
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,080
squid

709
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:06,480
and then it it's backed off too got

710
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:07,840
freaked out

711
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:08,960
but if

712
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:11,919
if that thing if a squid freaked it out

713
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,039
i could only imagine what an rov would

714
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:16,960
do one of these mechanical

715
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:19,360
robots that like the smithsonian's been

716
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:21,360
trying to get footage forever

717
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:24,080
but but here was the theory this was the

718
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,000
theory that i had and i'm sticking to it

719
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:28,559
because i think it's correct

720
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:31,120
some animals get out of their niche even

721
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:32,480
architeuthis

722
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:35,919
so a female will just never lay eggs

723
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,400
and then they'll stay at the bottom

724
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:40,320
and they they'll they'll just basically

725
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,000
get out of their niche

726
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:43,919
maybe instead of living two three years

727
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:45,360
they're only gonna they're gonna live 50

728
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:46,400
years

729
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:49,919
on growing and growing

730
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:51,919
and so that's what the deal was with the

731
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:54,640
trout i believe they were female

732
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:55,840
trout

733
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:57,919
that just got out of their niche never

734
00:27:01,669 --> 00:27:00,159
bred and they didn't lose their life

735
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,679
force

736
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,279
and so they just kept growing getting

737
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:05,200
bigger and they become cannibals and so

738
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:06,480
that was my theory even with

739
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:08,000
archetoothis

740
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:10,480
that many of them just died very quick

741
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:12,080
before they get to these mammoth

742
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:14,000
proportions

743
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:15,840
so that squid is still swimming around

744
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,120
and maybe that squid will still be

745
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:19,200
around 100 years from now

746
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:22,000
you know so the legends of the kraken

747
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:24,080
you know very well might be

748
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,919
uh a squid that is dying finally

749
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:29,840
that's just massive

750
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:31,279
and of course what's it going to do when

751
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,960
it starts dying it's going to float up

752
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:34,480
to the surface

753
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,240
and it's not going to die instantly it's

754
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:38,000
blood's going to boil it's going to

755
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:40,720
become in great pain in the tentacles

756
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,360
this picture three-foot wide tentacles

757
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:44,799
flailing

758
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:46,880
you know and trying to grab onto

759
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:51,440
something um because it's drowning

760
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,320
literally

761
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:54,960
oxygen you filter oxygen out of the

762
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:55,840
water

763
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,640
so i would imagine that's um maybe the

764
00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:00,240
legend of the kraken

765
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:02,080
so i believe there's a lot of sea

766
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:04,000
creatures that stay deep become

767
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:05,200
cannibals

768
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,039
they never come up and they get their

769
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:09,120
new nutrition

770
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,600
from the smaller ones that will go up

771
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:13,679
and down the water column

772
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:15,279
so they're just eating that and then

773
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,799
they're getting all that water column

774
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,159
nutrition

775
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:20,559
so that's that's that was my theory and

776
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:21,679
it worked

777
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:23,360
it doesn't mean it'll ever work again

778
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:25,279
because we've tried it other teams have

779
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,320
tried it

780
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,480
and it's failed so we might have been

781
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,480
like patterson and gimlin

782
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:32,159
and just got lucky

783
00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:33,919
yeah you know we don't know that it's

784
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,360
already been

785
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:37,919
14 15 years now and

786
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:40,000
no one's no one's done it

787
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:42,399
and trust me numerous teams have tried

788
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:44,399
oh yeah yeah i know they're i know they

789
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:45,440
have

790
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,799
um

791
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,559
what uh vincent wants to know what's the

792
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:50,880
strangest case or report you ever come

793
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:52,480
across

794
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:55,039
oh my god probably my own

795
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:57,279
yeah and i i want to get into that as

796
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,919
well oh my god i get so you know like

797
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,840
you i get so many of them and they're

798
00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:03,600
hard to just have

799
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:05,679
one gel or pop to mind you know i whiff

800
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:08,159
on that question a lot myself to me okay

801
00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:09,679
i just heard one today that was probably

802
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:11,919
the strangest case i've ever heard just

803
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:12,880
today

804
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:15,039
and so that's that they keep topping

805
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,720
themselves

806
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:18,960
and no matter which one i i give on

807
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:21,360
vincent it's going to

808
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:23,039
i'm going to forget about 100 other ones

809
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:25,440
that are just as amazing

810
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,760
so i'm doing a disservice

811
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:30,080
um so i'd rather just you know just tell

812
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:31,679
someone my own

813
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,559
okay yeah well tell us i i think you're

814
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:36,240
you're talking about

815
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:38,960
the wing humanoid that you and your wife

816
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:41,760
ran across one day and you know i had

817
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:44,399
documented that on on the blog and i

818
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,120
didn't realize it was your case until i

819
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:49,279
was on your radio show and told radio

820
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:50,799
recently

821
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:53,279
yup i was i was shy about

822
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:55,120
telling the storyline

823
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:56,640
i didn't i wanted to be you know

824
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,960
anonymous

825
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,480
but um

826
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:02,880
i've had a number of things i mean

827
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,640
from the time i was a little kid

828
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,559
i think i was maybe nine i had my first

829
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:10,880
paranormal experience which once again

830
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:13,279
these things are far and few in between

831
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:14,720
but when they happen to you they're

832
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:16,480
life-changing

833
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:18,159
and i would tend to

834
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,760
think there's very few of us that

835
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:22,080
haven't had one or two or three

836
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:23,440
life-changing

837
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,679
events that we keep to ourself

838
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:28,080
we don't tell anybody or we don't tell

839
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:29,360
you know it doesn't get out of the

840
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:31,919
circles over of your sister or your

841
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:34,559
brother or somebody

842
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:37,919
but um okay so we were driving south of

843
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:41,279
cloquet heading towards moose lake

844
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:44,399
and it was a beautiful night full moon

845
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:47,200
clear skies beautiful stars i even

846
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:49,520
remember the song that was on the radio

847
00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:53,440
was uh song by don mclean vincent

848
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:55,200
and um it was just we were just in a

849
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,640
good mood and

850
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:58,480
driving and all of a sudden everything

851
00:31:02,710 --> 00:30:59,600
changed

852
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,720
so up in the sky we see something drop

853
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,960
straight down like a spider

854
00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:07,039
um you ever seen a spider drop down on a

855
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:09,679
web and then just you know jolt

856
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:11,360
at the end of the web i think they make

857
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:13,760
it real quick and then they jolt

858
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:14,960
that's what this thing did with

859
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,039
outspread wings so it's up in the sky up

860
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:19,039
by the moon dropped straight down

861
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:20,799
without spread wings

862
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,799
got to maybe you know um

863
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:26,559
10 feet above the road

864
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:28,240
and when it drops so it almost hit the

865
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,480
ground and then made a beeline right

866
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,880
from my car windshield

867
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,720
and you know we're just in shock i mean

868
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:37,039
this all happened so quick you go from

869
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:39,840
just this relaxing music on

870
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:41,840
beautiful full moon night driving back

871
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:44,559
from up north you know about the woods

872
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,080
and then this the next thing you've got

873
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,799
a monster charging you in your car

874
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,960
and it got close to the windshield the

875
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:52,880
vet duct

876
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:55,600
and i just you know i'm driving and i i

877
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,519
just want to see this thing

878
00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:59,760
you know eventually i had to duck

879
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,039
because it looked like it was coming

880
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:02,960
right through the windshield

881
00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:05,440
but when i what i saw lawn i could only

882
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,279
describe it as a gargoyly like creature

883
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:10,960
did not have glowing eyes it looked like

884
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:13,039
it had black eyes

885
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:16,320
pointed ears bat like wings very shiny

886
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,679
skin

887
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:19,919
um and me and yvette argue on the size

888
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:22,480
you know i say both lanes of the freeway

889
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:25,440
and she thinks like one and a half lanes

890
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:26,960
but it was big i mean these wings are

891
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:29,840
big enough to support a man

892
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:31,679
but but here's the weird thing when it

893
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,240
dropped it defied physics

894
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:37,039
you cannot drop straight down

895
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:39,039
with your wings out spread

896
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:40,159
yeah

897
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:42,960
that's when i went oh this thing's got

898
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,720
to be paranormal

899
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:46,480
because it to fight and it never flapped

900
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:48,720
its wings so it dropped straight down

901
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,799
and then headed right for the car

902
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:52,240
i should probably do a little more on

903
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,240
there we go so straight down and then

904
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:56,480
chew him at the car

905
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:02,389
you know

906
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:04,960
and that's very similar to a lot of the

907
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:06,880
sightings that we have had especially

908
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:09,039
just like people just driving down the

909
00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:10,960
highway and these things seem to charge

910
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:11,919
at them

911
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:14,960
and then suddenly swoop up above the um

912
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:16,720
the car yeah

913
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:18,559
and uh of course you'll react at it

914
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:21,840
you're gonna duck by a reaction and um

915
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:24,000
it's it's a wonder if if anybody has

916
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:26,399
ever been hurt or crashed or b as a

917
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:28,080
reason it actually is i do know of a

918
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:30,320
crash where i actually broke his spine

919
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:31,200
yeah

920
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,120
did a roll over he was attacked by one

921
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:35,279
of these things his car flipped over and

922
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:37,440
he rolled over and broke his spine

923
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:39,440
ended up in a wheelchair

924
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:41,360
well you know my team and i have been

925
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:43,840
looking into this phenomenon

926
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:46,399
ever since this all started way back in

927
00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,200
2011 around chicago and of course when

928
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:51,919
it picked up again 2017.

929
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,159
what are your thoughts on this uh

930
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:55,919
i mean you said supernatural do you

931
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,919
think it's a supernatural being or you

932
00:34:04,630 --> 00:33:59,440
think there's something else involved

933
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:06,470
probably almost a bigger question as to

934
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:08,159
why they're here

935
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,639
is what the hell do they want why did it

936
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,000
do what it did

937
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,399
was it trying to scare me

938
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,240
was it trying to scary vet was it trying

939
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:18,720
to scare both was it trying to kill us

940
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:21,200
was it trying to have our car flip over

941
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:24,399
was it does it have a sense of humor

942
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:27,040
was it laughing saying oh my god watch

943
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:28,480
this

944
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,000
you know we're gonna shake these people

945
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:32,839
does it feed off fear

946
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,599
um the weird thing is is the area that

947
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:37,119
we saw

948
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:38,240
this thing

949
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:40,720
actually did get washed out including

950
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,919
the bridge

951
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:44,079
got washed out by a hundred year flood i

952
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:45,280
remember you telling that wiped out

953
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:47,440
duluth and wiped out parts of moose lake

954
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:48,639
locate

955
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:51,760
and so i find that coincidental but

956
00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:53,599
who knows you know i think that happened

957
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,839
um

958
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,359
probably about a month and a half later

959
00:35:02,950 --> 00:34:59,119
after we saw it i have to look up the

960
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,960
year right but um

961
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:05,119
i'm just so curious like what did it

962
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:07,200
want i think about that over and over in

963
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:10,240
my brain what was the purpose of it and

964
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:12,240
then i think about it when i'm

965
00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:14,079
out in the woods that night

966
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:15,920
or she was just going to get the mail in

967
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:17,119
the middle of the night or then putting

968
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:19,280
the garbage out you're thinking what if

969
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,430
when that thing swooped at us if i would

970
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:27,119
have been outside the car

971
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:30,240
would we have been snatched killed is

972
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:32,000
that what's causing missing people these

973
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:33,040
are all the

974
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:34,800
crazy things that go through my brain

975
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:36,079
yeah

976
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:39,520
that i mean you know

977
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:43,359
this is why i it's just it's just

978
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,680
i don't know it's kind of imprinted on

979
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:48,079
us as well i mean if anybody thinks i

980
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,920
have anything to gain by telling that

981
00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:52,320
story you're very wrong oh no i'm a

982
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,079
businessman um

983
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,320
i've got you know um

984
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:58,400
my reputation's everything to me

985
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:59,599
right um

986
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:01,440
but yet i'm thinking i'm also doing

987
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:04,560
people a disservice i thought about it

988
00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:06,800
and thought well if somebody else has

989
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:09,520
seen these which no doubt in that area

990
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,480
or somewhere along that corridor they're

991
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:14,640
going to be just as crazy as i am and if

992
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,359
i could meet that person

993
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:20,240
you know it'd be great and in fact i

994
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:23,599
ended up doing a monster quest um

995
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:27,280
show on the mothman or online humanoids

996
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,880
after that because

997
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:30,720
i was doing pushback on that because

998
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,760
there's no physical evidence so i kept i

999
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:35,839
kept telling the producers that history

1000
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:37,200
no i don't want to do it i don't want to

1001
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:38,400
do it

1002
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:40,160
because there was nothing to examine

1003
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:42,320
what you know how can i even do a show

1004
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:44,480
because i always prided myself in having

1005
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:45,920
some physical

1006
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:48,079
evidence to look at

1007
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,040
there was nothing um but yet i found

1008
00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:53,200
other people in minnesota

1009
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:56,720
that had been swooped at in their car

1010
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,440
um another uh was a father and the son

1011
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,839
they actually were swooped at exactly

1012
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:03,520
literally if you just drew a ruler from

1013
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:05,680
where we were to where they were

1014
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:07,200
dead straight line straight down the

1015
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,640
river line

1016
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:10,560
um and they pulled over and they were

1017
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:12,400
vomiting

1018
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,560
from either ear or something i don't

1019
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,480
know

1020
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:18,960
it does it does seem to affect people

1021
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:21,440
physically yeah um

1022
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:23,119
you know you know this is and this is

1023
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:24,880
something that we've tried to look into

1024
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:26,960
you know we've we've kind of made some

1025
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:29,920
strides more recently and uh hopefully

1026
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:33,040
it's gonna pan out but uh

1027
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,119
you know it seems to be concentrated for

1028
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:36,960
the most part around o'hare around the

1029
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,400
airport and uh that i believe is maybe

1030
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,560
the key to what's going on and hopefully

1031
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:44,480
we're gonna come up with something

1032
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:46,960
i have a i have somebody i trust very

1033
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:49,599
much i'm not gonna give his name

1034
00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:52,160
but he um is writing a book about my

1035
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:53,599
life

1036
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:56,160
and just one of the straightest

1037
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:57,920
normalist people i mean he's written

1038
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,320
books on baseball players and

1039
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:02,800
you know he's just a regular guy

1040
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:06,000
never had any paranormal experiences and

1041
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,240
he calls me up all freaked out he said

1042
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:10,560
well i was taking a a photo i thought

1043
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:11,920
would make kind of a good background for

1044
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:13,599
a book cover

1045
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:16,000
and then he sends me the photo and lo

1046
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:17,200
and behold and

1047
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:19,680
up in the clouds it looks like there's a

1048
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:22,160
winged humanoid

1049
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:23,520
flying i gotta send you that picture

1050
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,480
alon sure because the source i trust and

1051
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:28,000
i can give you his number

1052
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:30,240
and you can talk to him and um

1053
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:32,640
it's a pretty damn clear picture

1054
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,670
well you know they're kind of few and

1055
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:41,920
far between and they're kind of very

1056
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:42,800
just

1057
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:44,320
indiscernible you know

1058
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:45,280
right

1059
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:48,480
uh i i know there and i will say this

1060
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:49,599
there is a

1061
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:51,839
uh seth breedlove from small town

1062
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:53,200
monsters

1063
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:55,520
has uh done a documentary

1064
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:57,440
that's going to be coming out soon or

1065
00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,440
maybe out now i don't know but maybe

1066
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:01,920
it's out soon uh on his uh on the

1067
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:03,920
trailer series uh

1068
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,720
talking about the uh the lake uh

1069
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:08,640
michigan mothman

1070
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:12,160
and there is and i hope this helps sell

1071
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:13,680
sell the film

1072
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:17,760
there is he does have a f a small clip

1073
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:20,480
video clip of a winged

1074
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:23,680
humanoid being like being

1075
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:26,400
going past him past his hotel room at

1076
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:29,680
the end of the film wow it's an amazing

1077
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:32,240
clip is it um i always wondered that

1078
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:34,000
because one of the reasons like for

1079
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:36,240
instance i wouldn't tell anybody about

1080
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:37,440
my

1081
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,800
sighting

1082
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:40,320
i mean it was more of an attack than it

1083
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:42,800
was a sighting right i'm the monster

1084
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:44,000
quest guy who in the hell is going to

1085
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:47,589
nobody

1086
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,560
so

1087
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,880
it's i find it interesting that now seth

1088
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,640
is saying that he had something swooped

1089
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:54,000
by him

1090
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:58,160
so maybe they want some uh publicity

1091
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,280
i mean

1092
00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:01,520
well good as anything else i can come up

1093
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,480
with

1094
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,480
you know stranger things have happened

1095
00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:06,880
you know and i you know we are making an

1096
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:09,839
attempt as a team to connect with these

1097
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:11,119
beans

1098
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:14,240
uh it's really in preliminary stage now

1099
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,119
but we i think we're i think we're on to

1100
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:19,599
something and hopefully

1101
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,800
uh

1102
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,720
more sooner than later we're gonna be

1103
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:24,400
able to come out with more information

1104
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,280
so you know we had to wait and see

1105
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,119
but you know what i think they do want

1106
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,280
to be seen and i i thought that from the

1107
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:32,640
very beginning

1108
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,240
because they made themselves known

1109
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:38,880
maybe they don't want to be proven but

1110
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,359
they want the awareness absolutely you

1111
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:43,440
know what i mean by the awareness yeah

1112
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,800
yeah you know of course people will

1113
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,560
think well this is a harbinger that's

1114
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:48,880
just like but they tried to equate the

1115
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,280
silver bridge collapse with the

1116
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,520
point pleasant mothman well i don't

1117
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:55,680
really believe it are you aware one that

1118
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,680
the 35w um bridge had a mothman sighting

1119
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,920
perched on that bridge

1120
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:03,280
is that the one in minneapolis you're

1121
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,400
talking about yep yeah i have heard that

1122
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,560
i have heard that and uh

1123
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,560
you know it it seems like a lot of these

1124
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,960
disasters is kind of after the fact that

1125
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:14,640
we get people telling you well we saw

1126
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:17,359
this we saw that yeah well maybe you did

1127
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:18,240
but

1128
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:19,280
you know if

1129
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:22,160
if there is photographic evidence yeah i

1130
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:23,680
definitely want to hear it and see about

1131
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,960
it but um

1132
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:26,720
and be quite honest with the only the

1133
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:29,440
only one i really believe

1134
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,319
at this point was the uh the so-called

1135
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:34,560
blackbird of chernobyl where people had

1136
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:36,880
actually documented seeing this thing

1137
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,040
flying above the reactor before the

1138
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,079
actual disaster itself but uh

1139
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,160
you know we've heard about fukushima as

1140
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,480
well you know these beings

1141
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:48,640
seen above the reactor but there's no

1142
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,359
real evidence of it but right if that if

1143
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:53,760
this if there's something that actually

1144
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:56,240
ties in the the bridge collapse in

1145
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:58,000
minneapolis oh i'd definitely like to

1146
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:00,000
hear about it

1147
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:03,440
yeah in the um you know the i just found

1148
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:05,119
it coincidental that that whole moose

1149
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,480
lake area got wiped out you know rigid

1150
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:10,000
i just thought

1151
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:16,230
yeah you never know you never know maybe

1152
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:17,839
they are trying to tell us something in

1153
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:20,480
a kind of backward way i don't know

1154
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,079
definitely like you know i guess if i

1155
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:24,640
was to guess if i had to bet so vlan

1156
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:26,480
said hey doug make a bet are they alien

1157
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,359
are they

1158
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,760
spiritual whatever i would go with alien

1159
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,440
yeah well i'm kind of in this on you're

1160
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,119
saying the same boat

1161
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,760
and uh we we had to have some kind of

1162
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,839
anecdotal evidence that that may very

1163
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:39,440
well be the tie

1164
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,400
we've had ufo sightings associated with

1165
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:45,280
these beings but

1166
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,119
there's there's a good chance that they

1167
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,839
may not be connected maybe these things

1168
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:51,760
are following them for some reason i

1169
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,640
don't know

1170
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,640
uh it's still a connection we're trying

1171
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,560
to make it's like the wings are there

1172
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,119
for show they don't they never flap them

1173
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:01,920
i had a woman write me from colorado

1174
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:04,720
and she was describing and she's like

1175
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:06,319
you know i saw your monster quest

1176
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,760
episode

1177
00:43:12,850 --> 00:43:09,839
and she explained she said the weirdest

1178
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,860
part was that it never flapped its wings

1179
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:14,079
[Music]

1180
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,599
and i hear that over and over and over

1181
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:17,599
and over absolutely what i saw and i'm

1182
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:18,400
like

1183
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:22,079
right through them yeah they're just

1184
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,760
they're not even there well i mean i

1185
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:25,520
told you that you know with the sighting

1186
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:27,839
i had back in 88 the thing never flashed

1187
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,079
its wings you know flapped his wings

1188
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:32,880
uh it just some it was self-propelled

1189
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:36,079
and uh we get that a lot and you know

1190
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:38,640
the fact that i had that encounter in 88

1191
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,960
why am i getting part of this

1192
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,079
this uh

1193
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:44,800
these sightings and such now

1194
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:47,200
uh is there a coincidence or is it is

1195
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:50,480
there a real reason behind it uh

1196
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,359
i don't know um

1197
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:56,000
um either call seth and

1198
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:58,079
hear a story because

1199
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,680
you know once again

1200
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:01,760
the chances of me seeing a mothman are

1201
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,319
jill into one right

1202
00:44:08,910 --> 00:44:06,560
right absolutely guy produced a monster

1203
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:08,920
quest he's mothman yep right

1204
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:11,760
[Laughter]

1205
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:14,079
well we we do have another question here

1206
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:16,400
and this goes back to the sea

1207
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:18,880
uh do you believe that there may very

1208
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,720
well be a megalodon out there

1209
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:24,720
don't know it's certainly um you know

1210
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:27,040
we've had a lot of these lazarus type

1211
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,240
animals

1212
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,480
pop up now we're dealing with you know

1213
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,640
the tasmanian tiger footage as an

1214
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:34,160
example

1215
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:37,359
and some of that footage is damn good um

1216
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,400
we've got the uh the woodpecker in texas

1217
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:42,880
uh they wasn't the ivory bill

1218
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:45,040
we'll keep seeing them um

1219
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:46,640
why not

1220
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:49,119
i had a sighting one time

1221
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:51,839
that i don't know if it was just

1222
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:54,000
a pattern

1223
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:55,839
but we were driving once again it was

1224
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:57,760
kind of that same area we're driving

1225
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,440
north this time

1226
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:01,200
and at the side of the road was an

1227
00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:04,560
animal that was larger than an elephant

1228
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:07,119
and with huge antlers and kind of an

1229
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,680
upturned curved nose and it was just

1230
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:11,920
grazing at the side of the road

1231
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,520
you could see it me eating it was a nice

1232
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:15,359
full moon night

1233
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,839
and you're just like dumbfounded june

1234
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:19,520
you drive by it

1235
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:20,880
and you're on a freeway and you can't

1236
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:22,800
turn around um

1237
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:24,960
and there was actually a podcast that i

1238
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:26,000
had to do

1239
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:29,440
i had to get to this hotel really quick

1240
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:31,119
but i get back and i'm looking up giant

1241
00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,720
deer looking up giant air and sure

1242
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:34,720
enough there's a prehistoric

1243
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,800
deer in the book that matched exactly

1244
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,640
what we saw

1245
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,480
at the side of the road

1246
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:42,640
right down to the curved nose the long

1247
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:43,599
curved

1248
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:44,839
nose of this

1249
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,000
thing and i thought was it just a

1250
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:49,920
pattern of you know like a ghost

1251
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,240
basically a spirit of an animal

1252
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:54,319
or is there really one one or two

1253
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,240
running around i don't know

1254
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:58,400
but think about how big the ocean is so

1255
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:00,800
if there's a prehistoric um animal

1256
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:03,520
living it's unlikely the deer is out

1257
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,960
there but very much more likely that the

1258
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:08,160
shark is

1259
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:10,160
because the ocean's so big

1260
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,520
you know we don't have freeways down at

1261
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:13,680
the bottom of the ocean right

1262
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:15,200
well that's a good point

1263
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:17,200
i uh you know i've always this is one

1264
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:18,880
thing i've always thought about i mean

1265
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:19,680
you know

1266
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,680
people say they see something that would

1267
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:24,000
be more of a relic or something that

1268
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,200
would

1269
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:26,880
closely resemble just like the uh the

1270
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:29,520
the pterosaur sightings and you know

1271
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,640
throughout the

1272
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,079
north america

1273
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,319
well certainly basking basking sharks

1274
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:36,480
get mistaken yeah

1275
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:38,800
for these big uh megalodon sharks oh

1276
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:41,280
yeah but maybe but maybe they're not

1277
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:43,760
basking sharks it's just that's what the

1278
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:49,270
interesting

1279
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,880
yeah i i've always i have thought that

1280
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,400
maybe well even

1281
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:56,960
do these things come back are they um

1282
00:47:03,109 --> 00:46:59,359
is there a kind of a time slip where

1283
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:03,119
they can come through in and out and uh

1284
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:05,119
that could be it for all we know mothman

1285
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:06,960
sightings are all just time glitches

1286
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:07,920
sure

1287
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:09,920
that's as good as put it this way lawn

1288
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:12,079
it's as good as any other explanation

1289
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:14,720
yeah because we don't know we don't know

1290
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:17,200
but um can we know less about the ocean

1291
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:19,359
than we do the moon sure

1292
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:20,960
so yeah

1293
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,280
well and you know you're being involved

1294
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:24,960
in the cryptid world

1295
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:27,920
with your show and other projects

1296
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,480
uh i i personally believe that

1297
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,800
folks that look into this phenomenon i

1298
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,280
mean leisurely or as a

1299
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:37,440
very serious enthusiast need to keep

1300
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,359
more of an open mind

1301
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:41,920
uh as to what they're dealing with i

1302
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:44,319
mean is there are there other reasons

1303
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:46,480
other paranormal supernatural reasons as

1304
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,839
to why

1305
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:49,680
they're there and

1306
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,319
i i believe there absolutely is well i

1307
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:54,400
believe in time glitches only because i

1308
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:56,000
have personally experienced them they

1309
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:57,839
cannot be anything else

1310
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,640
i've had witnesses in almost every case

1311
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,720
and they're just so um

1312
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,319
they're so amazing

1313
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,240
that you know you just went there's some

1314
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,839
time glitch

1315
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,839
um you know i'm happy to relay those but

1316
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:11,680
i have no idea how much time we have no

1317
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,240
we got time oh okay so

1318
00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:16,960
i mean just to give a dumb example

1319
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:19,839
i was with my daughter um

1320
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:22,880
asia and we're up at a family reunion

1321
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:24,559
we're waiting to get we're at the hotel

1322
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:26,160
we're waiting to get on an elevator and

1323
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,119
here comes this very distinct family

1324
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:31,359
and they come off the elevator you know

1325
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:32,960
we're waiting to get on they coming off

1326
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:35,200
walk past us we get on the elevator we

1327
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:36,800
go down the elevator

1328
00:48:40,670 --> 00:48:38,319
we go out the front door and here's that

1329
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,680
same family walking towards us

1330
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:42,960
[Music]

1331
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:46,160
that's a small example

1332
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:49,359
of a time glitch and my daughter who

1333
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,119
have never discussed hardly ever even

1334
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:53,200
discussed anything paranormal with

1335
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,960
looked at me and went

1336
00:49:01,750 --> 00:48:59,910
well she was dead

1337
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:01,760
she was like glitch and i went glitch

1338
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,800
and i've seen

1339
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:04,559
probably um

1340
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:07,280
six of those kinds of things

1341
00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:09,680
and you always wonder um

1342
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:12,079
am i just noticing them are these

1343
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:13,760
happening to all of us but we just don't

1344
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,200
notice them

1345
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,359
uh i i think a lot of people have

1346
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:21,760
experience but don't acknowledge it for

1347
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:23,680
whatever reason i think you're yeah i

1348
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:25,599
think i think it's a combination of

1349
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:28,240
people not noticing and not wanting to

1350
00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:31,440
think about it well i i think

1351
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,280
shows like monster quests and what

1352
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:35,440
you've developed over the years have

1353
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:37,520
kind of opened it up for folks have

1354
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,400
given them a reason to not be fearful of

1355
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:42,960
coming forward yeah and i applaud you

1356
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,839
for that because uh i and i've had

1357
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:48,000
people tell me when they've when they

1358
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:49,760
reported something you know i was

1359
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:52,800
watching an old monster quest film

1360
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:53,599
show

1361
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,079
and i saw this i saw that and

1362
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,400
wow that's something i saw at one point

1363
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:00,640
and i got a story for you or this and

1364
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:02,880
that and uh

1365
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:05,599
i i think your type of work

1366
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:08,480
in particular monster quests have really

1367
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:10,720
opened things up for for people who have

1368
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,599
kind of been lying in the shadows

1369
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:15,520
well i you know i hope so i mean every

1370
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,800
time a show comes on tv it certainly

1371
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:20,480
started a whole bunch of

1372
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:23,359
shows in that genre um

1373
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,800
it's gonna give people courage because

1374
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,480
they see it on tv and they go hey that

1375
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:28,559
person's brave enough or they listen to

1376
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:30,319
it on a podcast

1377
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:32,400
you know these podcasts are also very

1378
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:35,440
valuable it's one reason i do a podcast

1379
00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:36,720
just because

1380
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:38,559
if we don't start sharing knowledge all

1381
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:41,119
we're doing is wasting our lives

1382
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,319
literally we're wasting our life

1383
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:46,480
um because what are we all here to do

1384
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:49,280
lon we're all here to learn sure what

1385
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,960
other purpose could there possibly be

1386
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:54,800
you know you know we don't we're here to

1387
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:57,280
make plastic

1388
00:51:02,309 --> 00:50:58,880
you know what i mean i'm doubling here

1389
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:02,319
to to flush things down the toilet

1390
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:04,160
we must be here you know to gather

1391
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:05,359
knowledge

1392
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:08,319
and human beings do that best um but i

1393
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,839
think we're all here all animals

1394
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:11,040
everything we're here to gather

1395
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,079
knowledge

1396
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:14,160
and um

1397
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:15,920
so if we're not communicating we're

1398
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:19,440
we're definitely not gathering as much

1399
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,200
well you know and it's another thing i

1400
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:23,040
got to thank you for with monster quests

1401
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:24,800
it's kind of made me felt better about

1402
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:26,480
presenting things like the way i have

1403
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:28,240
over the years yeah i've been less

1404
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:30,800
reluctant to put things out there and

1405
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:32,960
believe me and you know i i put a lot of

1406
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,640
things out there that have

1407
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,720
raised eyebrows but

1408
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:38,480
you know i'm

1409
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:40,800
i i consider myself a storyteller

1410
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:43,440
basically and uh you know i'm when

1411
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:46,400
people call me or text me or whatever

1412
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:48,960
and tell me something i can come card a

1413
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:50,880
part of that event

1414
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:53,599
and i i feel obligated to tell it as

1415
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,000
they told it to me and that the readers

1416
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:59,040
decide you know what they believe well

1417
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:00,960
think about think about back then one

1418
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:02,960
there were hardly any websites there was

1419
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:05,440
crypto mundo as i remember

1420
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:08,000
yeah there was nowhere even for us to go

1421
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,599
right you know if you were interested in

1422
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,359
the topic um

1423
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:13,359
i think bobby short had a website i mean

1424
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,040
there was just so few

1425
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:17,280
you did um

1426
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:20,160
and i remember um the first time i came

1427
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:21,920
upon

1428
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,680
i can't remember the guy's name but he

1429
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:28,390
unknown humanoids

1430
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:29,599
or something

1431
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:31,520
humanoid sightings

1432
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:33,920
i can't think of his name oh i

1433
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:36,400
i really respect the guy um

1434
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:37,680
but he was just documenting these

1435
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:39,839
humanoid stories from all over the world

1436
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:41,359
you'd read that stuff and you're just

1437
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,200
like oh my god you know i think you're

1438
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:45,280
talking about albert rosales yes that's

1439
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:47,200
him yeah

1440
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:50,880
yeah albert and i've actually we've been

1441
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:52,640
we've been connected together on a lot

1442
00:52:58,829 --> 00:52:55,040
of the stuff for over a decade now he

1443
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:58,839
was he was another pioneer absolutely

1444
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:01,119
absolutely yeah i mean

1445
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:03,040
that's a niche he found and he thought

1446
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:05,920
well people needed to know and he was

1447
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:07,839
taking reports from all over the world

1448
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:09,359
and of course

1449
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,440
he being hispanic and and having

1450
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:13,040
connections to

1451
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:15,520
that community and to other countries

1452
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:16,960
south of him

1453
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:19,359
uh he was able to present that stuff and

1454
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:22,559
uh yeah groundbreaking i mean i've used

1455
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:23,359
his

1456
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:26,800
uh

1457
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:28,960
and i'm i'm very appreciative of him

1458
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,720
allowing me to do so

1459
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:32,640
uh and uh yeah

1460
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:34,240
there's a few of us have been out there

1461
00:53:40,829 --> 00:53:37,440
a while you'd think about it yeah and um

1462
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:40,839
you know like lauren coleman um yeah

1463
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:42,800
um uh

1464
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:45,119
matt uh

1465
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:48,160
uh billy and god there's a number of

1466
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:49,680
people that if it wasn't for just this

1467
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:51,280
core of people i would have thought i

1468
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:53,760
was going crazy having all this interest

1469
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:54,480
in

1470
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:00,400
thank god but boy so i get on facebook

1471
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:03,040
in november lawn

1472
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:06,720
and i'm like oh my god there's like

1473
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:10,800
10 000 bigfoot groups and ufo groups and

1474
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,839
paranormal monster groups and cryptid

1475
00:54:17,589 --> 00:54:15,920
groups and whatever i mean there's

1476
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:17,599
groups for groups

1477
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:20,720
and i was just shocked yeah i was really

1478
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:23,520
shocked it's good i mean it is changed

1479
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:26,480
things have really changed

1480
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:28,800
it's made it easier for me i mean i i

1481
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:31,359
gotta admit that um

1482
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:32,960
you know i like the fact that maybe i

1483
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:35,280
can go surfing or looking around

1484
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:37,200
on threads and looking around here and

1485
00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:38,799
there and i'll come across something and

1486
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:39,839
it's like

1487
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,079
huh well that's a new one

1488
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,000
let me contact this person and get the

1489
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:46,400
full story and i you know like with this

1490
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,040
thing with going on in around chicago i

1491
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:51,359
i have gotten a few of those from

1492
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:54,240
people who have kind of you know

1493
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:56,720
i saw mentioned i saw this this and that

1494
00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:58,880
and not too specific and you know how

1495
00:55:02,069 --> 00:55:00,480
that is that happens i'm quite sure

1496
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:02,079
you're going through it too and you

1497
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:04,400
contact them and wow the you know the

1498
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:05,119
the

1499
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:16,400
gonna believe this well

1500
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:19,280
i will believe almost anything at this

1501
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:20,960
point i've seen so many and heard so

1502
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,880
many things well i remember when i

1503
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,200
talked to you and told you about the uh

1504
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:27,839
my mothman sighting i actually felt like

1505
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:30,160
a load off

1506
00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:31,760
after talking to you because yeah just

1507
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:35,200
keep it bottled up and people react like

1508
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,599
that they absolutely do

1509
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:39,839
it it's a fat it's fascinating but it's

1510
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:42,319
it's funny how these type of encounters

1511
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:45,119
even though they are they're dramatic uh

1512
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,359
it really imprints the experiencer it uh

1513
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,520
uh it's something that never leaves them

1514
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:54,160
they always remember it and uh you 50

1515
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,599
years down the road they'll come up with

1516
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:57,280
the same thing and tell you ah well let

1517
00:56:01,670 --> 00:55:59,599
me tell you this story that story and

1518
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,680
some of the most fascinating incidents

1519
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:03,440
or something that happened that long ago

1520
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:04,480
and

1521
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:06,160
you know they've been afraid to tell you

1522
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,559
anybody about it and wow

1523
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,400
when they get that opportunity that's

1524
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:12,000
when you really

1525
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:13,599
start seeing

1526
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:15,440
some of the history and some of the

1527
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:18,480
background some of this phenomena

1528
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:19,839
some of them you know

1529
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:21,760
the weird thing is about like i think

1530
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:23,359
back on on

1531
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:26,400
on cryptids or things that i've seen

1532
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,200
things are so spaced out

1533
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:30,799
you know it isn't like something's

1534
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:32,400
happened you every week

1535
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,480
i remember in the 90s i'm driving with

1536
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,960
down the road with my son blaine

1537
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:38,640
and it's kind of a light drizzly rain

1538
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:40,720
and we see this little creature like

1539
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:42,000
jumping

1540
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:44,480
across the road kind of this real jerky

1541
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:47,200
action but it's on two feet

1542
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:48,720
and all of a sudden it leaps over a

1543
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:50,319
guardrail

1544
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:52,960
and runs down to the lake and i remember

1545
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:55,119
blaine going you know what was that dad

1546
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:59,280
and i said i have no idea i don't know

1547
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:01,359
it wasn't like this isn't the kind of

1548
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:02,880
sighting you're gonna go tell a bunch of

1549
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:04,319
people about

1550
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:05,520
because it's just

1551
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:07,839
kind of quick and a little weird

1552
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:10,160
you know for all i know it was a raccoon

1553
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,319
with no front legs but then you think

1554
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:14,079
about it you go

1555
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:17,040
no it had long white hair

1556
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:19,200
no it leaped over the guardrail in two

1557
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:20,480
feet

1558
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:22,400
and you just start thinking and you know

1559
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:24,640
your brain um

1560
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:26,559
just wants to shut it off

1561
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:28,160
right there's another time down the same

1562
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:29,280
road lawn

1563
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:31,599
it's driving down with the wife

1564
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,079
um i just sat down having um a few

1565
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:36,400
drinks with the sheriff just a couple so

1566
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,319
i'm with the sheriff okay

1567
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,319
we just got together to visit socially

1568
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,319
so i had maybe two beers

1569
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:44,720
get in my car driving back

1570
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:47,119
and all of a sudden i see these eyes at

1571
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:48,640
the side of the road

1572
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:51,040
you know on the uh on the left side

1573
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:53,680
and whatever whatever it was leaped in

1574
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:55,359
my car

1575
00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:56,559
instantly

1576
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:58,720
slammed into my car

1577
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,760
and put its head right it face to face

1578
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,280
with this creature

1579
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:05,040
no idea what it was

1580
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:07,599
it looked kind of dog-like

1581
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:09,520
but it kind of didn't it kind of looked

1582
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:12,480
human but then it didn't look human

1583
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:14,960
it had like eyes that were very far

1584
00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:17,200
forward like a bulldog

1585
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:18,559
one of those little bulldogs with the

1586
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,960
bulgy eyes um

1587
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:22,559
but it pooped all over the whole side of

1588
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:24,400
my my van

1589
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:26,799
wow so i get home and i'm like looking

1590
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:29,520
for dents on the side of my car because

1591
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:30,160
it

1592
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:37,119
then leaped in my car

1593
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:39,440
and attacked my window

1594
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:41,680
and slammed his body up

1595
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,480
but those are the kinds of things that

1596
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,319
who's going to i mean we're going to

1597
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:48,400
we're going to put a story like that i'm

1598
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:50,799
not going to call the bfro no you put

1599
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:52,160
sighting

1600
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,119
uh

1601
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,839
i'm the guy you call yeah i guess

1602
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,200
something you're probably the closest

1603
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:59,040
person you could tell us yeah

1604
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:01,440
yeah but um

1605
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:03,040
but those are the weird things that

1606
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,599
happen in life that um you don't know

1607
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:07,440
what to do with sure

1608
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:09,599
but yeah i hear it all the time i hear

1609
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:11,920
it all the time and it's uh

1610
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:13,839
you know and they make fascinating

1611
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:15,839
encounters they really do

1612
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:18,240
um let me ask you uh before we go uh

1613
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:20,640
doug uh what's the future of white wolf

1614
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:22,799
entertainment are you going into the

1615
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:23,920
more

1616
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:27,119
you know other areas of uh production or

1617
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,079
what's what's the future call well i

1618
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:32,640
mean i've always done other shows i've

1619
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:34,079
done you know every show i like i've

1620
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,880
done shows about babies for discovery

1621
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:38,480
channel um

1622
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:40,160
done all sorts of different things but

1623
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:41,920
i'm trying to get

1624
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:44,240
i'd really like to get two more series

1625
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:45,680
mm-hmm

1626
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:47,440
and then babel at some point you know

1627
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:49,119
they get too old to just turn them over

1628
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:50,640
to somebody else

1629
00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:52,880
but that's my goal to land another

1630
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:55,440
series or two at this point

1631
00:59:58,710 --> 00:59:57,119
it's just it's time to you know really

1632
01:00:01,349 --> 00:59:58,720
get back to that kind of work again

1633
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,359
because i really loved it yep

1634
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:03,599
well i think you and i have to talk in

1635
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:06,160
the near future about something

1636
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:07,040
uh

1637
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,280
call me anytime you know i appreciate it

1638
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:11,520
and hey look thanks again for coming on

1639
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:14,240
with me i i really appreciate it and uh

1640
01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:16,720
i know our listeners are fascinated by

1641
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:19,440
you and what you've done and especially

1642
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:22,720
the nexus of uh monster quest so um

1643
01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:25,359
hey uh you take it easy and you have a a

1644
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:27,839
real safe and enjoyable weekend you too

1645
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:29,680
you too long thank you for the invite i

1646
01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:31,280
appreciate it you're fun to talk to me

1647
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:33,200
all right bye

1648
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:34,960
now if you have an unexplained encounter

1649
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:36,880
sighting feel free to contact me through

1650
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:39,520
fans monsters blog site i want to again

1651
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:42,000
thank uh doug hycheck for joining me

1652
01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:43,200
this evening

1653
01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:45,119
and thanks to each and all of you for

1654
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:47,599
watching and chatting um if you made a

1655
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:50,319
super debt donation oh truly appreciate

1656
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:52,400
it this is what keeps us going

1657
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:56,319
uh please like subscribe and share now

1658
01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:59,119
next week and in fact the next two weeks

1659
01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,760
uh arcane radio is going to be dark

1660
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:03,599
uh i've got some i got a medical

1661
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:05,359
procedure i got to go through next week

1662
01:01:08,069 --> 01:01:06,640
and then

1663
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:08,079
i'm going to do a bit of entertaining

1664
01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:10,880
the week after that so we'll be back uh

1665
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:13,839
and i'll announce the uh

1666
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:15,599
the guest we will have

1667
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,240
in the near future and uh

1668
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:20,079
and we'll go from there but until the

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next time we meet stay healthy and have

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[Music]

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[Applause]